Please note that this post is tagged as a rumor.
New information on AMD Vermeer engineering samples has been released.
AMD Vermeer with boost clocks up 4.6 GHz spotted
Some interesting details were shared by Igor in his latest article (which is also covering our leak). The story is about Renoir Desktop (AM4) APU series, which are more or less confirmed to be up to 8-core and 16-thread processors based on Zen2 architecture. This is a new frontier for AMD, as to this date, only 4-core APUs were available for the desktop market.
As we discussed earlier, the new CPUs will compete with the Intel i7 series, which are also available with 8 cores and selected SKUs are equipped with integrated Intel Gen 9.5 graphics. AMD APUs are expected to have significantly better graphics performance, as they feature more than twice as many unified cores. But the high-end APU market is still uncharted waters for AMD. To this date AMD 6+ core processors were not available with integrated graphics, so we are not sure how popular they can become. Most games will likely stick to dedicated graphics options, but high-end APU can be an interesting alternative to home entertainment systems or home (transcoding) servers.
The story from Igor also covers another topic, which is AMD Vermeer. This codename corresponds to Ryzen 4000 desktop series, the true mainstream-to-high-end offer. Unlike the Ryzen 4000G series, based on Renoir silicon, Vermeer will not have integrated graphics. However, they will be based on Zen3 architecture, so they are expected to be more powerful in computing-oriented calculations. The leak from Igor confirms that AMD is currently developing a 16-core processor for AMD Ryzen 4000 series. That would obviously mean a successor to Ryzen 9 3950X.
Name: Vermeer (VMR)
Family: 19h
Models: 20h-2Fh
CPUID: 0xa20f00OPN 1: 100-000000063-07_46/40_N
OPN 2: 100-000000063-08_46/40_Y
OPN 3: 100-000000063-23_44/38_N
Revision: A0
Cores: 8
Threads: 16OPN 1: 100-000000059-14_46/37_Y
OPN 2: 100-000000059-15_46/37_N
Revision: A0
Cores: 16
Threads: 32— Source: Igor’sLAB
The 16-core samples have a higher base clock (3.7 GHz vs 3.5 GHz) compared with 3950X, but the boost clock is lower (4.7 GHz vs 4.6 GHz). There is no information in the codename about TDP though.
At least three samples with 8C/16T configuration are also listed in the leak. These are currently locked to 4.6 GHz boost frequency as well. However, just because an engineering sample has this clock it does not mean it will be the same for a retail product. In fact, we don’t know how fresh these samples are, only that the revision is A0, which means a very early one.
This is the current roadmap for the AMD Ryzen series. It may contain errors as some data is based on rumors:
AMD CPU Roadmap | |||||
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VideoCardz.com | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020+ | 2021+ |
Datacenter | |||||
Datacenter | EPYC 7xx1 14nm (Zen) Naples | – | EPYC 7xx2 7nm (Zen2) Rome | EPYC 7xx3 7nm (Zen3) Milan | EPYC 7xx4 5nm (Zen4) Genoa |
Desktop | |||||
High-end | TR 1000 14nm (Zen) Whitehaven | TR 2000 12nm (Zen+) Colfax | TR 3000 7nm (Zen2) Castle Peak | TR 4000 7nm (Zen3) Genesis Peak TBC | ? |
Mainstream | Ryzen 1000 14nm (Zen) Summit Ridge | Ryzen 2000 12nm (Zen+) Pinnacle Ridge | Ryzen 3000 7nm (Zen2) Matisse | Ryzen 4000 7nm (Zen3) Vermeer | Ryzen 5000 5nm (Zen4) Raphael TBC |
Entry-level | Athlon 7th 28nm (Excavator) Bristol Ridge | Ryzen 2000G Athlon 200G 14nm (Zen) Raven Ridge | Ryzen 3000G 12nm (Zen+) Picasso | Ryzen 4000G 7nm (Zen2) Renoir | Ryzen 5000G 7nm (Zen3) Rembrandt TBC |
Mobile | |||||
High-end | – | Ryzen 2000H 14nm (Zen) Raven Ridge | Ryzen 3000H 12nm (Zen+) Picasso | Ryzen 4000H 7nm (Zen2) Renoir | ? |
Mainstream | – | Ryzen 2000U 14nm (Zen) Raven Ridge | Ryzen 3000U 12nm (Zen+) Picasso | Ryzen 4000U 7nm (Zen2) Renoir | ? |
Entry-level | – | – | Athlon 300U 12nm (Zen+) Picasso | Athlon 3000U 14nm (Zen) Dali | ? |
released; confirmed; unconfirmed |
AMD Vermeer first appeared in a leaked slide from Informatica Cero back in 2018. It was also listed with Renoir and NG HEDT (now known as “Genesis Peak”):
AMD Vermeer is expected to launch in September.
Source: Igor’sLAB