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October 9th, 2012

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti

I thought I would post them. However, you should wait for real reviews in terms of performance comparisons. Seems like GTX 650 Ti is another card to compete against Radeon HD 7770, not HD 7850.

I will post press releases later.

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti news

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti news

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti news

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti news

NVIDIA Releases GeForce GTX 650 Ti news

  • BestJinjo

    Not sure what NV marketing has been drinking lately but a $149 MSRP card does not compete with a $119 MSRP HD7770. Actually, the after-market versions are going for $159-179
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review/3

    HD7850 1GB is $159 and is therefore a direct competitor and after-market 650Ti’s would start to approach HD7850 2GB $189 range as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/quinnfitz Quinn FitzGerald

    Yes, the 650Ti is another badly priced card… 7850 1GB competes and 7770 to cheap

  • nvidia ggce

    comparing a 128bit card to 256 bit card busted by gtx 660 @ $229 and hd 7850 was launched @ more than $250……AMD FANBOYS R BIG TROLL LOSERS…

  • nvidia ggce

    $159 CARD WITH $60 dollar free assassins creed 3 for pc …..badly priced my god…

  • BestJinjo

    HD7850 launched at $249 in February of 2012. What’s that have anything to do with GTX650Ti at $149 vs. $159 HD7850 1GB / $189 HD7850 today? You label everyone as an AMD fanboy the minute your precious company releases an overpriced card?

    HD7850 is 30%+ faster than GTX650Ti is for only $20-30 more. HD7770 on the other hand costs much less and is less than 15% slower than the 650Ti. At current prices for $149 reference and $155-175 for after-market 650Ti cards, it’s in no man’s land.

  • BestJinjo

    That’s a stupid argument. People buy a GPU to play hundreds of games. After you beat this bundled game you still have 30% slower performance than 7850, not to mention 7850 overclocks extremely well to 7870/660 speeds for not much more $. $150 is too expensive for the level of performance 650Ti will have for future games. AC3 also will be on sale for $15 shortly as have been previous AC games. NV included this game on purpose to mask its awful performance against the 7850. What if a person doesn’t even want AC3 to begin with? Check the reviews. GTX650Ti loses badly in so many games to the 7850.

    It’s hard to have any discussion with an NV fanboy though so I doubt you’ll get that for $30 more you get a card 30% faster on average! AC3? Are you serious? This is one of those usual cases where in the sub-$200 price range an extra $20-30 goes a long way.

    The cheapest GTX650Ti 2GB is $170 in the US. That’s retarded against a $185 HD7850 2GB.

  • DavidJamesIsTung

    I want to say this exclusively to you: NV sucks balls.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheHeartOfAsiaa Pratik Rawankar

    NVIDIA — whole mid-range gaming market already been eated by 7770 , 7850 , 7870 over 2 quarters and also now

    how many dam idiots are fcking waiting for gtx 650 ti over months___

    NV done lots of shitty things in 2012 and gtx 650ti in oct release is one of them
    NV is dead PS4 , XBox 720 hardwares goes to AMD and PC Gamers + OC lovers all for AMD

    NV done worst job in 2012 and in future it will continue

    “”"”"”"”"bz NV have broken brain___bones can heal , brain can’t”"”"”"”"”

  • http://www.facebook.com/quinnfitz Quinn FitzGerald

    You realize the 7770 is a $110 card? thats not $60, but very close. Also the 7850 (1GB) is within $5 of price and the 2GB is within $20…..

    For at least 25% more performance… and last i checked those come with free games…..

  • BestJinjo

    You’d be surprised. Go read Newegg review posts. People saying they waited “4 months for GTX670 4GB version” or “I waited since the beginning of the year for GTX660Ti”. GTX550Ti is still in the top 10 selling GPUs on Amazon despite being a terrible GPU at $120-150:
    http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-Graphics-Cards/zgbs/electronics/284822/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_4_284824

    Never underestimate the knowledge and brand bias of the average GPU buyer. You could tell them GTX650Ti can play games at 1080P with PhysX and they’d believe you :)

  • Raghar

    Well if GTX 560 could play games at 1920×1080, or 1920×1200, this card can too. It’s just a bit faster GTX 560 with slower RAM (with 192-bit interface it could beat up GTX 560 Ti fair and square). I remember I was able to play Dead Island at full settings at GTX 560, before I returned it, so this can play current games at this resolution. In addition it’s a nice card for aftermarket passive cooling.

  • BestJinjo

    Of course it can play games but for $20-30 more you can get a card that can play them 30% faster. That’s not a lot of $ for a large performance increase. It’s not really about how well this card stacks up against GTX560 but against it’s competition. The question is this card worth $150 for 1GB version and $170 for 2GB version? To me the answer is clearly no since it offers worse price/performance than either the 7770 or the 7850. Hopefully prices will drop towards $100 mark as they normally do for NV’s $149 cards. NV similarly overpriced GTS450/550Ti and those cards eventually dropped to more reasonable levels. The other point is this card performs very poorly with AA, which doesn’t bode well for next generation games. Spending $150 on a GPU that will be hopeless outdated late next year doesn’t sound that smart. It has little overclocking headroom as well should you need a little extra speed down the line.

  • Raghar

    Probably not too badly priced, just they should recommend to release both 1 GB and 2 GB versions. Asus releasing only 1GB version is major faux pas. (Zotac did it right. Cheap 1 GB for these who want it, 2 GB for these who want the RAM, and AMP for high performance.) This card is just killed by unnecessary D-SUB, which hurts cooling and is completely useless, by 1 GB versions, and probably by lack of bandwidth. I guess even when they would release 192-bit card they wouldn’t compete with GTX 660 much especially when they would keep RAM at 4800 MHz.

    Remember AMD had whole year, and they filled storage with 7850 which they can afford to flush out, NVidia is releasing GTX 650 Ti just recently and they probably shouldn’t risk undersupply, then again what is just 14 day delay. So the price is just a consequence of price/demand.

    It has 40 Watts less consumption than 7850, thus a 1 GB 7850 will not be able to compete with 2 GB cards. Different cards for different purposes. Are there 1GB GTX 660? No? Too bad, 7850 1GB basically doesn’t have direct competition. But, I guess NVidia wanted to squeeze into hole in market, NOT to directly compete. (Just the same as AMD tried to squeeze into holes in market when they designed 7850 and 7870 to be on both sides of what NVidia offered.)

    Remember direct competition harms both sides, when they will try to squeeze into holes in market, and to adhere to expectations, they can keep prices higher, and get higher profit. Theirs problem is Intel. It basically kills the low end cards, which is one of reasons why AMD didn’t release 7450, or 7730.

  • Raghar

    That’s nice, but I don’t want to pay $20 more for 1 GB card that can play games, I could play at full speed already, 3/10 faster. In fact, I will not pay $ 150 for 1 GB card at all. That’s too expensive for me.

    I might be willing to pay for high durability components, for higher memory, and for proper cooling/passive cooling, but not for a bit higher performance. GTX 650 Ti is doing what it should by doing already, as long as 7850 will be more expensive AND AMD will not guarantee perfect drivers at day of release AND it will not support Linux perfectly (overclocking included), 7850 is simply irrelevant. 7770 might matter, but it looks like aggressive pricing and 7770 didn’t happen, considering there is no passive 2GB DDR5 on the market, the alternative “passive card which saved money for an aftermarket cooler” simply can’t happen.

    Remember. The rule n. 1 in computer HW is: You’d get much faster stuff at the same price few years later.
    Why pay too much?

  • BestJinjo

    I don’t use Linux so I can’t comment on it. The $20 extra for 7850 1GB gives you massive performance increase, that’s why. Add overclocking and 7850 can reach 7870/660 speeds.

    http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/Z/355751/original/average%20perf.png

    Also, what do NV’s drivers 10 months ago have anything to do with today? You realize NV’s drivers are nowhere near perfect as NV fans love claiming over and over. I’ve used NV cards for years and I can say it’s just BS. See most NV users never tried AMD cards so they keep repeating the same myths.

    Tom’s hardware even noted this in their GTX650Ti review:
    “This specific combination of settings caused Nvidia’s cards to demonstrate intermittent black textures, which we’d be most inclined to blame on the company’s beta graphics driver.”

    NV also had SLI scaling issues with Guild Wars 2, very poor performance with Shogun 2. Your argument for gaming about drivers hardly makes sense when HD7850 smokes the 650Ti by 30-40% in games. How would it do that in popular games if it had poor drivers? Since more than 40% of desktop gamers use AMD graphics, you think they buy them because they love to suffer through driver problems?

    What games are you playing on Linux with overclocking?

  • Nvidia ggce

    GTX 670 FTW IS THE BEST SELLING GPU OF 2012 ……HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

  • common sense
  • Joe

    did u just go full retard?
    never go FULL retard!

  • ?

    BestJinjo: Could you go back to Semiaccurate with your clueless analysis?

  • Veyron321

    Don’t know what’s the point arguing about 120-200 $ GPU’s. Main interest nowadays is in the 300-500 dollar segment. Be COOL :)

  • Keicie

    i hate this at its current price! most people are waiting for at least 192bit version of this card, 1.5/2gb would be enough. since that is not feasible anymore please just remove the free game and cut the price to 7770 levels. i think they might release this here later without the game and cheaper price like $139 or lower (asia). the freaking powercolor 7850 2gb still costs $253 here, powercolor 7770 is $129 . 7750 is $102 with the recent price drops. geforce 650 (non-ti) is $111 which might drop price once the 650 Ti’s are shipped here.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121669

    if a person compares aftermarket version of a card with a stock one, talks about overclocks and also persuades to add 30 dollars more money….. maybe i should reply… not everyone has 30 dollars more, i dont do overclocks (insert tons of reason here) and please compare apples with apples and not with oranges! buy oranges much better than an apple, but but im making apple pies…. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/quinnfitz Quinn FitzGerald

    yes, i suppose, but most people don’t run even CLOSE to maxing out their PSU’s unless they are enthusiasts…. the 650ti ain’t an enthusiast part last i checked ;)….

    i feel like this card is much more for PC manufacturers (due to power as you pointed out) we will see!

    so their is no good reason to buy the card, its i believe around 10-20% faster than 7770 (which is as low at $120) and much slower than both 7850′s……

    eh….. hope Nvidia gets better pricing…. but its always been this way..

    AND THANK YOU FOR A WELL THOUGH OUT REPLY :)
    rare to find those ^^

  • Keicie

    yeah people are naive to not remove the price of the bundled game, maybe 50 dollars which will make the value of the the card alone drop to $109. this is great for those who are buying a gpu and is also getting assassins creed 3, they get better value than buying a 7770 and assassins creed 3. and to those not wanting assassins creed 3 might as well wait for 650ti’s that doesnt have have ac3 bundled for cheaper price on the card (hey nvidia partners $119 should be fine)… ^_^

  • Erenhardt

    GTX650Ti + AC3 = $150
    78501GB + AC3 = $185+$50=$225
    Can you see now what are they talking about?

  • http://www.facebook.com/quinnfitz Quinn FitzGerald

    it always depends…. if they will play the game… the card is a great buy. Otherwise it is not a very good buy.

    Personally, i would not play that game (nor the games that AMD is giving with its cards) so i have to look at the sticker price.

  • Erenhardt

    There is game boundle added to priveVsPerformance. If you account that it will be much better. This game is worth half $ of this card. $50 for game and $100 for GPU = $150.

    And
    GTX650Ti takes only half of energy of what 6870 takes.

  • Raghar

    “Recommending the Radeon 7850 1GB over the GTX 650 Ti 2GB would be pretty sensible… if it weren’t for the issues we encountered in Skyrim. Considering the 7850 2GB exhibited no problems, it’s likely the 7850 1GB’s smaller frame buffer is proving to be a handicap in that game. ”

    It looks it began already.

    From when is 3/10 more a massive increase in performance? Massive increase in performance is 2x – 3x. When I’d try to update my 8600 to GT 640 passive, I’d see a massive increase in performance. In fact, not everyone wants antialisasing, thus the higher performance would be bit wasted. Either you go all out for GTX 660 2GB (or 7870/7950), or you can stay at GTX 650 Ti 2GB.

  • common sense

    - Unfortunately game does not add anything to priceVsPerformance but if it was buy 1 get another free that would since you can SLI.
    - Since it’s new game, it’s GPU demanding. Imagine you get that bundle and after you will enjoy slide show ??? No… you don’t need that horror story
    - There was different point in comparing it to HD 6870. Last round Mid range GPUs are still performs well, look @ 560 Ti.
    - If you care about energy why don’t you get one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127694

  • common sense
  • Erenhardt

    GTX650Ti has performance per watt at 7750 level. These 2 cards are way ahead of any other GPUs(GT620 included).
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_650_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/29.html

    Performance per dollar looks worst than 7750 because you pay for a GTX650Ti and AC3, whereas 7750 is a lot cheaper, but you get GPU only. Add $50 to 7750 price and it will be somewhere on the other end of the table.
    GTX650Ti will be able to pull AC3 with no problems (maybe not maxed or 3display)
    Both 7750 and GTX650Ti are good cards. But AMD is selling their cheapest product without any boundle for undler $100. I think that is very good strategy. Someone on a budged will be looking for a best $/performance around $100 price tag. GTX650ti price is around $100 if you take AC3 value from GPU price. But as a whole you need $150 which is near next level GPUs (7850 1GB).

  • Keicie

    been burned with HIS products before so NO to that. besides if 7850 (Powercolor/Sapphire/Asus) ever comes down in price here @ $164 then maybe ill consider it, but as for now its too damned expensive at $253 here in ASIA. Geforce 660 (non-ti) is a slightly better deal at $240… and of course if the 7850 ever comes down in price here, the 660 non-ti may also comes down in price. thus the reason why we cant recommend 7850 here in asia…

  • Keicie

    and yes for the sake of the topic, the geforce 650 ti is a stupidly priced gpu. the card itself is great but nvidia priced it too high. we should voice out our concerns using our wallets and not buy this product until it lowers it price.

  • http://www.facebook.com/FwixGamer Anas Azghari

    7850 can reach 7950 speed according to my experience (OC XFX BE HD 7850 to 1230 gpu 1.25v /1470mem beat an GTX 580 in lot of games and if ur lucky u can up to 1300 mhz it’s 50%oc …. )
    so i think the 7850 is really the best mid range card in this 3 years (hdxxxx 5/6/7 )
    also the 650ti for 150-160$ it’s just overpriced not only the 650ti but all the KEPLER series are overpriced if we speak oc/price/performance . vs AMD

    also driver stuff is the same with nvidia , i have a 590′s and i can tell u there is a lot of stutter and fps drop frequency idle won’t go to idle state etc (the best was 29x driver ! ) so drivers critique = user experience ( 3d vision – sli -cfx-flavor games ect ) no one is perfect it’s only the user experience can probably say green driver’s is good over red team driver’s and vise versa !
    so if we speak : experience/high-tech knowledge driver’s they are good and bad
    and my conclusion is : this years AMD win this round with the Southern Islands cards !

  • BestJinjo

    Oh really? My analysis is not clueless as reviews have shown GTX650Ti tanks in 1GB or 2GB form and is worse price/performance compared to both HD7770 or HD7850. I never had any problems recommending NV GPUs when they are good (GeForce 4Ti 4200 Albatron edition, 6600GT, 6800 non-Ultra unlock into a 6800GT, 6800GT, 7800GT, 8800GT, GTX460/470 OCing, GTX670). Sorry, GTX650Ti is junk and GTX600 series has no EPIC NV card like GTX460 or 8800GT in the sub-$300 space. AMD owned this generation with HD7850 and 7950 OCing in the sub-$300 space. That’s not clueless but objective. When I see GTX650Ti getting hammered by 30-40% by an HD7850 and barely beating a $105-115 HD7770, it’s overpriced. Sorry it doesn’t jive well with you and you call me a fanboy right away.

  • BestJinjo

    When I said “massive increase” it was in the context of extra dollar spent. $20-30 gets over $149 gets you HD7850 2GB which is 30-40% faster than GTX650 1GB. GTX650 2GB is $170 in the US. So not sure how you can continue to deny that people should just stick to GTX650Ti 2GB when it offers horrible value. Not to mention you still have not explained why it’s better to buy a $150 GTX650Ti 1GB over a $169 HD7850 1GB?

    Outside of Skyrim where both cards would be running into 1GB VRAM limits, the 1GB 7850 will continue to have a 30-40% advantage which is incredible for so little $ extra.

  • BestJinjo

    Yes, but don’t you buy a GPU to play 100s of games? What happens after you beat the console ported AC3 game? You have 30-40% slower performance in 100s of other games. What happens if a person doesn’t care at all about AC3 since they know they can pick it up later for $5-10 as most EA games? You still end up paying $150-170 for a GTX650Ti that offers inferior price/performance to HD7770 and also gets absolutely hammered by a $180 HD7850. You can enjoy your AC3 game but next year when more GPU demanding games come out, do you really want to give up 50-60% more performance that one would get from an overclocked HD7850 against a GTX650Ti over AC3? Most people wouldn’t.

  • Keicie

    a funny thought came to me, what if you only have $170, and since you want the best gpu available you bought the Radeon 7850 for $164 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161426&name=Desktop-Graphics-Cards. Now you have a better gpu than a geforce 650Ti.
    and for the $6 left i bet you will be playing old steam/bargain bin games…

    whereas a geforce 650Ti will get you the latest assassins creed game of which you can resell after finishing it and spare cash to buy more decent games. yes you get a weaker card but not by much, since im currently using geforce 650 (non ti – 64watts) (bought $113 at launch) and runs almost all games at 1920x1200p at high details (excluding metro 2033/BF3/crysis and similar extreme pc requirement games which runs on medium). im pretty sure 650ti is better than what i have. yet i still believe its bad bundling gpu with game, they should have priced it lower so i can choose another title besides AC3.

    in the end its just up to the consumer what they want. its not really way better or uber ripoff choosing either path. one leads to semi future proofing and the other has every current games covered with a price that is slightly lower (if you remove the price of the bundled game).. all in all its nice to see that somehow both companies are trying to edge one another be it price or performance for its always the consumers that wins…

  • BestJinjo

    You can’t resell the AC3 game as it’s a Steam coupon. It attaches to your account.

    Also, with your logic if 40% performance advantage that HD7850 1GB offer over GTX650Ti is negligible, why not get an HD7750 or a used GTX460 1GB? , etc. Never in the history of GPUs, could one get 40% more performance for $20-30 more and that’s exactly what 7850 1GB delivers. However, 7850 also overclocks another 20-30%, making it as fast as an HD7870 which is 60% faster than 650Ti.

    Not sure why you assumed AC3 alone is worth it when people keep their GPU for 2-3 years and 40-60% more performance for $20-30 is a heck of a deal no matter where you live since it means much smoother gaming performance and image quality over 50-100 games you’ll play in the next 2-3 years. I am not telling you what you should buy but most forums online all criticize for GTX650Ti being terribly overpriced at $150-170. Even reviews said it’s a very poorly priced GTX600 card.

  • Keicie

    no problems here, as ive said i already have the geforce 650 non ti for almost the same price as a 7750 and heck it has better performance than a 7750. since i use cuda apps, nvidia is always a better options unless amd gives me something like 30 percent performance gain at the same price! 1gb 7850 is also non existent here, no more 460′s anywhere too. and instead of getting a 2gb 7850 ($195) i would opt for the 2gb 7870 ($219) which is only $25 more… or is that a bad deal lols