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August 13th, 2012

AMD Adds PowerTune Boost To Radeon HD 7950, Boost Clock of 925MHz

AMD Adds PowerTune Boost To Radeon HD 7950, Boost Clock of 925MHz radeon 7950
We heard couple of weeks ago that AMD might roll out a new version of Radeon HD 7950. Back then we called it a HD 7950 GHz Edition. Today, we learn that there’s no such card, because the new one will indeed have a higher clock, but only by 125 MHz.

PCPerspective had the oportunity to test the new BIOS for HD 7950. They literally updated the firmware in their reference card from official launch, so this is not a new card. Firmware adds a PowerTune Boost, which is known as a AMD’s Boost Clock from HD 7970 GHz Edition. So this is basically a technology similar to NVIDIA Boost clock, which adds more speed to the GPU clock if needed (and if possible).

The new base clock of the HD 7950 is 850 MHz, while the boost clock would be set to 925 MHz. So the card would receive 125 MHz faster frequency. This is nothing that HD 7950 can’t handle.

This new feature would obviously raise the performance. Unless your card is already overclocked you might be interested in grabbing this firmware. AMD has agreed to share it so here you have it.

Download Tahiti PRO Boost BIOS July 12th 2012 [PC Perspective]

It should officially be available  before August 16th (smells like a fight against GTX 660 Ti). AIB partners should provide the specific BIOS versions for their models later. Remember to use dual BIOS switch, unless you want to risk bricking you card.

AMD is still working on the new API to read the actual clock. Although the clock is oscillating from 850MHz to 925MHz with 4MHz increments, application like GPU-Z will report a full 925MHz clock. There no way of checking the real-time clock at the moment.

Anyway, how does this new clock affect the performance? Depends on the game, in Battlefield 3, Metro 2033 and Deus EX the performance gain is about 5%. In Dirt 3 it’s almost 20%, in Batman 10%. Still this is nothing you can’t manually do with your overclocking skills.

Total power consumption of the whole system has increased from 294 to 317 Watts (23 more). The temperature of the GPU only by one degree C. For more details head on to PC Perspective’s review (link at the bottom).

AMD Adds PowerTune Boost To Radeon HD 7950, Boost Clock of 925MHz radeon 7950 AMD Adds PowerTune Boost To Radeon HD 7950, Boost Clock of 925MHz radeon 7950
AMD Adds PowerTune Boost To Radeon HD 7950, Boost Clock of 925MHz radeon 7950

  • skr13

    TYPO: “fight aganist”
    Nice feature, but is a bit late, Nvidia 660 Ti is the main cause of that delay.
    925Mhz(boost) isn´t much, but sure is better than default 800MHZ and almost equal performance of HD 7970 1st Edition.
    Example of expected performance after bios update:
    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/?page=6

  • http://videocardz.com/ VideoCardz.com

    I’m pretty sure this clock will make this card faster than GTX 660 Ti and in some games GTX 670.
    Though timing suggest it’s clearly targeting GTX 660 Ti.

  • Johan90s

    Oh I soooo hate factory overclocked gpu’s, you pay more for just a software mod, and you can overclock manually higher.
    I don’t understand why people pay 10 – 20$ more for a bit higher clocks.

  • BestJinjo

    I don’t think it’s too late per say. People who overclock manually have been jumping on HD7950 TwinFrozr 3, PowerColor PCS+ and Gigabyte Windforce 3x for $310-330 and overclocking them to 1.15+ghz. There are some people who won’t overclock and for them a boost to 925mhz is free performance that should make the 7950 more competitive for the majority of the market that doesn’t overclock.

    The review you linked shows that HD7950 comes within ~5-6% of the performance of HD7970, but it’s from February (i.e., using outdated drivers). Using the same 5-6% performance at 925mhz compared to the 7970, the 7950 should beat the 660Ti with the latest drivers:

    August 13, 2012 Review: HD7970 > GTX670, HD7970 GE > GTX680
    http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-grafikkarten-2012/3/

    That means a 925mhz 7950 would likely be within 3-4% of the 670 for $70-80 less! The killer aspect of the 7950 is that it has another 200-300 mhz headroom on top of that. I called it earlier that an Oced HD7950 will take out an overclocked 660Ti because HD7950 is only a slightly crippled 7970 but 660Ti is crippled severely in the areas of memory bus/bandwidth and ROPs. 660Ti may beat the new “stock” HD7950 in BF3 and Crysis 2, but have a lot more trouble winning overall, especially with 4AA/8AA/4xSSAA and 2560×1600 or higher resolutions.

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  • common sense

    have to agree with you but nvidia fan boy vision is really narrow —->nvidia<—- lol
    seriously 1100mhz core and 1600mhz memory is really easy to achieve on 7950 and it got x2 bigger memory bus compare to 660 ti. At 8xAA performance will drop dramatically common sense

  • skr13

    I think it´s too late, and is another desperate move from AMD to recuse drop prices more, who buy 7950 and overclock, sure doesn´t need that bios, won´t help, and the others that stay with stock speed cards, don´t even know about any bios, and possibly don´t even upgrade graphics drivers…
    It can beat 660 Ti, but 660 Ti card is meant to compete with 7870, and people seems to forget that, 7950 is for GTX 670.
    One fact that i see is AMD “horsepower” is superior, more VRAM, BUS, BANDWIDTH, but Nvidia doesn´t need such specs to achieve similar performance, you may say that games are NV optimized, that´s good, consoles games are well optimized like GTA4 and i prefer to play on PS3 than High End PC. So i don´t care about Radeon high specs compared to Geforce, because FPS/WATTS/PRICE are more important to me.
    And nobody gonna buy a mid-range card like 660Ti to play 2560×1600, with AA, only and “distracted consumer”.
    With that bios update 7950 card´s will increase heat and power consuption, only to defeat a 192-bit bottleneck card ;)

  • skr13

    UPDATE: “Hardware Canucks has reached out to five of AMD’s major North
    American board partners, which have all stated that any customer
    flashing this BIOS to their HD 7950 will immediately void their warranty
    should the BIOS switch be incorrectly set during the update. As such,
    AMD and by extension their board partners are recommending that existing
    customers not use this update.”
    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/amd-rolls-out-new-hd-7950-bios-expects-existing-customers-to-look-the-other-way/

  • http://videocardz.com/ VideoCardz.com

    Thanks for clarifying

  • skr13

    Reply your hidden comment:
    7950 official price is $350, and 660Ti is $300.
    First inform yourself about TDP and Power consuption, they are not same
    thing.
    And those temperature are measured with NVIDIA and AMD default coolers,
    which not represent real life numbers, because
    MSI,ASUS,Gigabyte,Zotac,Sapphire etc use their custom coolers.

  • Nigel Harris

    I would buy this but theres no HD7950 with heatsink and fan design of the HD7970 like you see in the launch reviews.

  • common sense

    my fault was quickly looking @ reviews and they were measuring whole system power and found out that techpowerup measure the video card only power consumption http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/25.html

  • BestJinjo

    HD7950 Gigabyte Windforce 3x, Sapphire Vapor-X have identical coolers to their 7970 counter-parts.

  • BestJinjo

    I agree that specs alone are worthless. When we discuss specs, we compare to cards in the same line. We don’t compare 32 ROPs of HD7970 to 32 ROPs of 680. We compare the specs of 7950 to 7970 and 670 to 660Ti and try to extrapolate possible performance.

    Also, here in US, Canada and in the UK, HD7950 doesn’t compete with 670 since it costs substantially less. $80-100 less in US and a LOT less in the UK:

    UK
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7950-5000mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-880mhz-1792-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-display

    US $310 for 900mhz Gigabyte Windforce 3x
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414

    Canada $305 for 880mhz MSI TwinFrozr 3:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127667

    Obviously if where you live the 7950 costs the same as the 670, it’s different. But here in North America, GTX660Ti at $299 will be aimed entirely at the 7950. An overclocked 7950 will be faster than a 680/7970 even at 1080P, not just at 2560×1600.

  • BestJinjo

    AMD dropped the ball with HD7950 BIOS. 1.25V during GPU Boost to get 925mhz is stupid. A regular after-market 7950 from a good brand such as Gigabyte Windforce / MSI TF3 can get 1100mhz on 1.15V.

  • BestJinjo

    If you want to discuss late, NV is 6 months late with GTX660Ti. So obviously it’s not too late for AMD to drop prices or release faster clocked 7950. If you always intended to buy the 660Ti for $299, that’s cool. However, HD7950 has been selling for $310-320 for more than a month in the US/Canada now.

  • BestJinjo

    AMD messed this one up. These 7950s will have 1.25V BIOS, which is insane. Too much power consumption and heat to deal with for minimal performance gains. Also the GPU Boost works far worse than NV’s, which means the 925mhz really only gives 5-7% increase, not 16% it normally would with manual overclocking from 800-> 925mhz:

    AnandTech has the analysis and the performance increase is weak:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6152/amd-announces-new-radeon-hd-7950-with-boost/3

    IMO, people are better off getting after-market original 7950s on fire sale than these new 7950 “B” revision. 660Ti will look even better now since 7950 @ 1.25V is a going to come close to GTX680′s power consumption. Fail AMD, fail.

  • skr13

    Yes, IMO both companys failed this generation, NV took much time to launch mid-range segment, and AMD only dropped prices a bit because Nvidia pressure…
    Sometimes i remember ATI 4870(best single GPU) that launch at about $300, not like this overpriced 7970.
    I read your post above about 7950 B fail, is true, like 7970GHZ also is, and maybe 7990…
    The unique card that continues selling good is 7850, because has good performance/price and no competition by Nvidia.
    But the fact is I’m getting stressed with my G210 ;)

  • Nigel Harris

    yes but i want the reference HD7970 heatsink with the tahiti pro core. I prefer blower style coolers due to the design of my case – Silverstone TJ08 – E. If I could get a HD7950 with the same reference heatsink as the HD7970 i’d sell my GTX680.

  • http://videocardz.com/ VideoCardz.com

    Nice review, but 20 more Watts is not that bad, while it could also provide more overclocking headroom. How easy is overvoltaging with Radeons? Is it something you can do easily on your own, or it’s more trickier?
    You should know ;)

  • Nigel Harris

    wow 1.25V…….. i suppose they have to use that volatge to ensure every HD7970 gets to 925mhz. Still silly high though.

  • Raghar

    1.25 V with 28 nm is stupid, they would brick the card. I overclocked 45 nm, and found 1.3 V is too much. I doubt things would be pretty when 28 nm uses similar voltage as an overclocked 45 nm processor.

    I doubt they would be that great overclocker without great cooler, and some way to disable power limiter.

  • LedHed

    Obviously AMD wasn’t ready for the 660 Ti and to quote AnAndTech: “We’re not at all happy with how AMD is handling this”.

    This coming from a PC user of 20 years and IT worker for State Govt who has owned 2x more ATI/AMD cards overall than NVIDIA ones. I purchased ATI cards dating back to 1999 and not purchasing my first NVIDIA card for another 6 years.