I´m waiting for TT Preview, but they usually use old games, what isn´t that great.
Anyway 660 Ti with OC can catch 670 stock, but still don´t know if this Ti is 256-bit/1152 or 192-bit/1344.

If what OBR wrote is true, then it may be 1344 cores with 192-bit…

Looks good using relative 3dMark11 scores to its GTX670/680 cousins but using 3dMark11 to measure overall gaming performance is misleading as the author noted. GTX680 is just 50 points worse than 1200mhz HD7970 in 3dMark11 but loses easily in real world games against a 1200mhz HD7970:

http://www.techspot.com/review/555-gigabyte-radeon-hd-7970-soc/page3.html

Good to see more competition at the $250-300 price level. Hope it starts price wars in the mid-range sector. :)

This graph(3dmark) is about Stock cards, this review from techspot is a OC card, and 7970GHZ is a desperate measure to be Faster single gpu on earth…
Agree we need competition and price wars in mid-range.

UPDATE: So this is the real deal:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index.html
192-bit ,24 rops, 2GB, 1344 Cuda Cores.

Thanks, don´t know if you had saw it ;)
Yes good performance, but if AMD drop 7950 to less than $300, still a valid option for me.
HA, yes you were right about ROP´s question in the other day :)

“but in GK104 every Graphics Processing Cluster can only have 2 SMXs (there’s one additional SMX which would not fit).”
But that´s happen in GTX670 1344 SMX, where is only 1 SMX in a GPC, instead of 2.
Yes, but with 24 rops is not possible to do like 670….
FORGET IT ;(

You aren’t understand what I am trying to say. 3dMark11 is not an indication of gaming performance. Take HD7970 @ 1080mhz for example. It’s slower than GTX680 in 3dMark but in the real world, it beats GTX680 in games:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/HD_7970_SOC/28.html

Do you play 3dMark11 over games?

If you skip to the end of the TT review, GTX660Ti’s 24 ROPs and neutred memory bandwidth make it tank in real world games:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index13.html

Also, HD7970 GE is no desperate attempt. It’s a real card and for $460, you can get a Vapor-X with amazing cooler that’s both faster and cheaper than the GTX680, and with overclocking will beat an overclocked 680:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7970GHZ

Look at AA performance of the 660Ti. Very very poor. NO way this card can touch an overclocked 7950.

Lets have alittle wager then shall we, I’ll shave my head if a reference 7950oc beats a reference 660ti oc

No, i play video-games, but i remember the time when AMD leads in 3dmark06 or Vantage, before DX11 version appear.
GTX 680 is for competing with 7970 1st Tahiti, not months later GHZ Editon.
I have to say again that 7970GHZ consumes more power than GTX680 thats a fact, if some care or not about it.
And 7970GHZ still didn´t appear in market, don´t know why?
Prices of AMD7000 launch so high and still in IMO.
Nvidia can drop prices when they want, launch GTX685 to destroy 7970GHZ etc.

They are waiting for Battlefield 4 :)

and a proper cooler

Seems like we will finally get a cheaper 7850 and 7870 :)

1) Who buys reference HD7950? You need a strong cooler to overclock HD7950 to 1.1ghz.
2) How far are we talking overclock? Max GTX660Ti vs. HD7950 at 1.1-1.15ghz?

You might as well start shaving your head now then because at just 1.02ghz, HD7950 is just 2 fps behind a GTX680 in Battlefield 3 (One of NV’s best games) and 4 fps ahead of the 670:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Flex/31.html

Tweaktown’s overclocked GTX660Ti couldn’t even touch a STOCK GTX670:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4873/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_overclocked/index13.html

It’s really very simple mathematics. GTX660Ti has 75% of ROPs and 75% of the memory bus width of the GTX670/680. HD7950 has 100% of the ROPs and 100% of the memory bus width of the 7970.

HD7950 has 40-50% overclocking headroom (800mhz –> 1100-1200mhz).

At 925mhz, HD7950 is only 5-6% slower than the HD7970:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/?page=3

It’s physically impossible for an overclocked GTX660Ti to beat an overclocked HD7950 since 7950 is basically an underclocked 7970 chip with a slight reduction in shaders and Texture units, while GTX660Ti is a 25% gutted GK104.

Look at this review and the summary chart that was done just yesterday:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-690-sli_6.html#sect3

HD7970 GE 1050mhz is faster than GTX680 1137mhz with the latest drivers. HD7950 @ 1.15ghz is faster than HD7970 GE 1050mhz. I’ll let you absorb that information at to how you believe a 24 ROP / 192-bit GK104 will beat an overclocked 7950 that has no problem beating a stock GTX680. :)

So you can’t see jagged edges/stair-case anti-aliasing and crazy texture shimmering on leaves/foliage on a 1080P monitor in bright games like SKYRIM, Crysis, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, Max Payne 3, Battlefield 3? If you don’t use AA at all, $300 GPUs don’t make a lot of sense. You’d be better served with a $170 GTX560Ti or $220 HD7850. $300+ GPUs are there to max out settings. Not even a 2560×1600 monitor can fully mask aliasing. The aliasing on cables, building structures/vertical walls, vehicles is especially terrible in FPS games.

So, I paid 150$ more for GTX 670 with 6,4% better performance compare to GTX 660 Ti…SHI~!