I hope a good performance competing with 7950, and if the price dont exceed 300, will be the best seller. 2GB Vram is great. Non TI 660 maybe feature 1.5vram, but that is fair for the card segment.

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-54004-1-1.html
According to this post, “Vendors have plans to send a sample card …” some partners will receive a card sample soon, and maybe a performance graph leak appear or a Preview(more later) like Tweaktown made with gtx670. Thats my thoughs ;)

Good to see them going with 2GB of VRAM. 1.5GB would have been a massive disappointment on a $300 card. Since GTX680/670 and 660Ti are all made not the same GK104 chip, this lands even more credibility that GK104 is just a mid-range Kepler chip. NV hasn’t built a line-up of mid-range and high-end cards based on the same chip since GeForce 4 Ti series. GK104 must be relatively cheap to manufacture if NV is willing to sell the same chip in both the $300/400 and 500 price levels.

I still don’t understand how those specs make sense theoretically though. In GK104, the ROPs are broken up into 4 blocks of 8, with each ROP block tied to a 64 bit memory controller and 128KB of L2 cache. Altogether there are 32 ROPs, giving 512KB of L2 cache and a 256bit memory bus. How can this card still have 32 ROPs but only 192-bit memory bus?

US Prices are always lower by ~20%. I had to pay $475 for my GTX 670 and that was the best offer I could find :)

WIll there be a non-Ti version?

Right, but when it comes time to upgrade and resell your card, I bet in the used market you get a higher resale value than us.

If is a mid-range kepler chip, but enough to compete with high end tahiti, why not? Is cheap to manufacture like you say, and profit is guarenteed. Still don´t understand how it has 2GB Vram? 2048/8=256bit so 1536/8=192bit…
Yes and the ROP´s question is relevant, 256/8=32ROP´s so 192/8=24ROP´s…
Maybe is not a GK104 chip, if you read Sweetclockers there is “GK104 (?)” in chart.

Well Sweclockers report that the price is 3000 SEK and thats $436 … but with European taxes, so you take around 20% and here’s the price.

Well, I’m officially glad I waited for a GPU purchase. I’ll still wait on benches and street price, but…yay.

@VideoCardz_com:disqus in USA is there is no tax or VAT ??
e.g. in India 12% VAT +4%other taxes +4% octria

Right, but you waited 6 months now since HD7850/7870 were available. 6-7 more months from today and we’ll have HD8000 series GPUs, which will be even better than current cards, while HD7950/7970/670 cards will have huge discounts. No matter how long you wait, something faster and better will come out, while current high-end hardware will drop in price by 40-50% since its launch prices. So you still can’t win playing “the waiting game.” :)

If all HD7000 series launch at right price i had choose AMD, i came from 560ti and want something more powerfull but wont break 300 Euros. But of course Nvidia drivers and personalized options for each application/game is a plus.
The only card that i had overclock was GXT460 edit bios and flash it(nibitor), but after that i use MSI Afterburner, more safe and easy to use.
7950 -300Euros i had buy it, not like 450 Euros(launch price). In my country none of 7970ghz exist in market , and 7970 “normal” is at +450Euros, a steal. A GXT670 is about 420Euros.

LOL, MSI 560TI when 7850 came out, was less expensive, and today continues that.
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/precos/nm_pesquisa.php?pesquisa=560+twin+frozr 217.90 EUR(560ti)
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/precos/nm_pesquisa.php?pesquisa=msi+7850 244.99 EUR(7850)

And this are lower prices for that models in the market, 560ti or 7850 are a good upgrade for ATI4000, or NV200 series.

They are talking about non-Ti model based on GK106, which is still a mystery for us. The most important information is that GK106 will have a boost clock, that’s GTS 650 and GTX 660 non-Ti.

Ya, I think “not a loyal fanboy”‘s comment was in relation to the prices in his country (i.e., 7850 cheaper than 560Ti) and despite that people still buying NV cards. Obviously, if the prices are cheaper where you are, then it’s a different story. Still 1.28GB of VRAM, worse overclocking on the 560 and lack of DX11.1 may prove to not be worth the savings of 30 EUR long-term, especially since HD7850 will quickly make it up in idle and load power consumption costs.

I didn’t wait 6 months, though. I’ve only been in the market for a card for a little over a month. I’m a seasonal gamer and don’t typically have a gaming system year round, frequent upgrades or sales. Now that things are winding down for me work-wise, I’m building another PC.

If compute is what you wanted then you should have waited a couple more months for Sea Island GCN 2.0. 7000 series already crushed eveything out there in compute already, except for GK110. You sound a little sad that you ended up with AMD this round which is confusing to me since AMD is in the 28nm lead right now.

NV delivered a mid-range Kepler from their family with crippled compute functionality, while AMD’s best card is only as fast as that GK104 chip (GTX680). So why would I be thrilled about the fact NV held back performance and decided to sell GK100 as K20 to professionals, while AMD released a massively underclocked 7970 card that I had to manually overclock? GTX680 is just 30-40% faster than GTX580 overall. I was hoping for a 500mm^2 die GPGPU compute + gaming chip from NV to give a much larger performance increase. GTX680 and 7970 are good cards, but nothing special compared to what many expected from this 28nm generation. With early drivers, a stock 7970 was just 20-25% faster in January-February 2012 over a GTX580. That was very underwhelming. Both teams disappointed this time imo.

Compare HD5870 vs. HD4870/4890 and GTX480/580 vs. GTX280/285. Both were larger increases in performance than what current generation has over the GTX580. I don’t feel it’s fair to compare HD7970 to 6970 since AMD raised the price almost $200….