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May 1st, 2012

GeForce GTX 660 Ti Coming in Q3 2012

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If you were expecting a new mid-range product from NVIDIA in May, then you may be disappointed, since first card from this segment will arrive in third quarter of this year.

GeForce GTX 660 Ti, a mid-range graphics card, which was reported to be based on the same GK104 Kepler GPU as GTX 680, will be arriving in few months – according to Overclockers.co.uk. Since they are selling cards graphics and always have the information from first hand, we can believe this is a verified information. So far, we know that NVIDIA is preparing two cards for upcoming days — GeForce GTX 690 and GTX 670. Those cards are also based on the GK104 GPUs.

Andrew Gibson (Overclockers.co.uk): 660Ti, you have zero chance, its approx 6 months away……..

The GTX 660 Ti will be featuring 6 SMX clusters — thats 1152 CUDA cores.

Detailed specification is as follows:

  • Transistors Count: 3.5 billions
  • Process: 28 nm
  • SMXs: 6
  • CUDA Cores: 1152
  • TMUs: 96
  • ROPs: 24
  • Base Clock: 1006 MHz
  • Memory Clock: 1502 MHz
  • Memory: 1536 MB GDDR5 192-bit
  • Bandwidth: 144 GB/s
  • Single-Precision Computing power: 2.35 TFLOPS
  • TDP: 150 W
  • Estimated Launch Price: $249

“Gibbo” also released price tags of GeForce graphics cards for upcoming weeks:

  • GTX 690 – £800+
  • GTX 680 4GB – £500+
  • GTX 680 – £400+
  • GTX 670 – £300+
  • GTX 580 – £300 and is now EOL with very little stock left so no further price drops
  • GTX 570 – £200
  • GTX 560Ti 448 – £180
  • GTX 560Ti – £160
  • GTX 560 – £140
  • GTX 550Ti – £100

  • BestJinjo

    Well that’s going to leave HD7850/7870 uncontested until the fall then. Hardly anyone will buy a $200-300 videocard with 1.28ghz of VRAM nowdays that also runs hotter. Thus, GTX560Ti 448 and GTX570 are probably worse options for most people in the mid-range. However, my theory is that GTX680 was never meant to be high-end, it was meant to be upper mid-range GTX670/Ti all along. Nvidia can’t get GTX660Ti out fast enough because they intended GTX670/670Ti (now rebadged GTX680) to be a workable chip with full 1536 cores! So where are they going to get “broken” GTX680 chips? They’d have to manually lazer cut parts out. However, then they’ll be selling fully working GTX680 chips for $250. Why would they do that when GTX680 is selling out at $500? Looks like they are going to build up inventory of broken GTX680 chips for 4-5 months…..

    I suppose if GTX570 drops to $219 or so, they can compete with HD7850/7870, but I think AMD’s strategy has paid off in the $200-300 mid-range this round. 

  • Muta_gwef

    I don’t think the theory that 680 was actually meant to be a midrange “670″ equivalent part holds any water, plus haven’t those rumours already be quashed? You only have to look at Nvidia’s line-up to realise that. If the 680 was meant to be a 670 they should have launched it as such but they didn’t because it’s the best single GPU they have - the fact is the GK110 is a dot on the horizon, they were never going to have it as a “680″ part, even if it launches as a 685, the length of time between the launch of GK104 and GK110 is enough that they’re almost from different generations.

    If supposing your theory were true then they wouldn’t need to be facing the problems with competition in the mid-highrange segment, the “670(680)” would be a dominant force. I can’t see them sacrificing their competition in the more lucrative midrange to high-midrange market to go after the tiny fraction of the market at the top-tier. Not to mention they wouldn’t have any card to launch as an actual “680″!

    I think the actual problem here is yields, they launched their top-end GPU with poor yields and have been stockpiling gimped GPUs for the 670 (this has been done across numerous generations – nothing new there) for a staggered release – I think they actually had to rush the 680 out despite poor yields because they already ended up without any comeptition for AMD for 3 months. As you say they need to get there 660Ti out pronto but the reason they can’t is because 680 yields are so low they can’t afford to just take a standard GK104 and disable SMX(s) they’re having to put everything towards 680 supply and rely on borked chips for the lower sku’s – major delay ensues!

  • Francmic000

    T.T

  • BestJinjo

    “I don’t think the theory that 680 was actually meant to be a midrange “670″ equivalent part holds any water, plus haven’t those rumours already be quashed? You only have to look at Nvidia’s line-up to realise that.”
    Actually looking at NV’s lineup if anything supports the notion that 680 was never meant to be 580 replacement.
    - 680 is only 30% faster than 580. Historically, NV’s next generation flagship cards are 50-100% faster, depending on the generation going back to GeForce 2, but never just 30%
    - 680 has 192GB/sec memory bandwidth. Historically, NV’s flagship card has tons of more memory bandwidth than the previous flgaship
    - 680 has dual precision (CUDA) performance neutered, but NV has pushed heterogeneous computing for 6 years since G80 launched with 8800GTX. They need a flagship card for Tesla lineup, which was always based on the flagship consumer card (not this time since 680 is gimped).

    “If the 680 was meant to be a 670 they should have launched it as such but they didn’t because it’s the best single GPU they have.”There are plenty of evidence that 680 was meant to be 670Ti. Just search in Google “Did NVIDIA Originally Intend to Call GTX 680 as GTX 670 Ti?” TechPowerup has the details.

    Also, because GTX670Ti could beat HD7970, NVidia may have decided to raise the price from $399 to $499 and rebadge it as GTX680.  That actually supports the view why there wasn’t GTX660Ti/670 available since since NV had no broken 660Ti/670 parts to launch as 670Ti was meant to be a full 1536 SP part from the beginning. 

    “- the fact is the GK110 is a dot on the horizon, they were never going to have it as a “680″ part, even if it launches as a 685, the length of time between the launch of GK104 and GK110 is enough that they’re almost from different generations.”

    Ya, that’s why it’s most likely that GK110 will become GTX780. NV will wait until 28nm capacity picks up. Also since they beat HD7970 with an GK104, there is no need for GK110 right now. 

    “ I can’t see them sacrificing their competition in the more lucrative midrange to high-midrange market to go after the tiny fraction of the market at the top-tier. Not to mention they wouldn’t have any card to launch as an actual “680″!”

    That’s why they were worried before AMD launched HD7970. They had no flagship ready because GK110 was not workable. That’s why the initial GTX680 boxes and pictures all labelled the 680 as GTX670Ti. It was later repositioned as the 680 because NV realized they could beat HD7970 and sell it for $500. Now NV is waiting for failed GTX670 chips or manually will laser cut them to create a lower end SKU. 

    I agree with your last point that it’s too expensive to sell GTX660Ti based on GK104 now. Yields, poor 28nm capacity at TSMC, etc. Plus they can sell the GK104 chip as GTX670/680 for $400-500, while selling more mature GTX560 Ti 448 core / 570 for $200-270 market to compete with HD7850. Unfortunately that means no competitor for the 7870. 

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