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April 3rd, 2012

GeForce GTX 685 (GK110) Features 4GB 512-bit Memory, 25% Faster than GTX 680

GeForce GTX 685 (GK110) Features 4GB 512 bit Memory, 25% Faster than GTX 680 geforce gtx 685
ORB-Hardware, a source of many leaks, has posted alleged specifications of GK110 GPU. It is expected in Q3 2012 and is the fastest single-gpu card prepared by NVIDIA so far.

According to ORB, GK110 will be 20-25% faster than actual flagship model GTX 680 based on GK104 GPU. It will feature twice as much memory as GTX 680, making 4GB in total. Previous leaks suggested it may be equipped with 384-bit memory interface, but ORB sources say it will have 512-bit interface instead. A die size is estimated around the size of GF110, but it will be slightly smaller. It is known for some time, that this card will be equipped with 2304 CUDA cores (33% more than GK104). Other specs are not yet revealed. But this overview suggest that it will be surely faster by 25% than GTX 680.

Naming of GK110 is not yet confirmed, but it may be called GeForce GTX 685. NVIDIA is preparing dual-gpu card GTX 690 (based on two GK104) to be released right after AMD releases their Radeon HD 7990. We are awaiting first mid-range cards from NVIDIA GTX 670 Ti and non-Ti to be released in May. Release date of GK110 is expected around Q3 (September – October).

 GeForce GTX 685 (GK110)GeForce GTX 680 (GK104)
CUDA Cores23041536
Memory Size4096 MB2048/4096 MB
Memory Interface512-bit256-bit
Release DateSeptember-OctoberMarch
GPUGeForce Kepler GK110 28nmGeForce Keple GK104 28nm
Power Draw~250W195W
Performance120-125%100%

  • Mufa_gwef

    It will be interesting to see them jumping upto a 512bit bus over the 256 they opted for on the 680 and how this might impact the memory controller performance. One thing’s for sure this is going to be an expensive card!

    It would be nice, considering the length of time between releases, for them to call this card a 780 and price it at $550 ;)

  • BestJinjo

    I think naming is GTX780 is a horrible idea. That’s just going to perpetuate the cycle of rebrading generations which aren’t deserving of the name. Like GTX580 should have been GTX485 since it was essentially a full working Fermi chip. Similarly, since GK110 is still a Kepler generation and won’t be 50-75% faster than GTX680, it shouldn’t be called GTX780 or that’s simply misleading. 

    Nvidia starting the naming screw ups with GeForce 9 rebadges. It’s time they stop and go back to the old days of making sense when renaming their chips.
    The estimate of 20-25% seems too low though. Based on 2304 SPs and much wider memory bandwidth it should scale better than that unless the card is clocked way below 1000mhz. 

  • http://videocardz.com VideoCardz

     I thought the same, 25% is not impressive at all, but ORB is rarely mistaken.

  • BestJinjo

    It’s possible those are just preliminary estimates right now. Also, the chip may have less aggressive GPU Boost/Base clocks to fit within a certain TDP limit (250W). If it has a large overclocking headroom like Kepler, it could have more potential. 

    Still even with 25% performance (which I admit I expected this to be more like 35-40%), it would be at least 35% faster than HD7970. That’s not bad if it launches in September/October, especially if NV lowers the price of GTX680 to $399 and positions GTX685 at $549. 

    Interesting how in a span of less than 10 months, an HD7950 for $450 will look downright mid-range. Shows how seriously overpriced HD7900 series was at launch. 

  • Mufa_gwef

    They won’t change their crazy naming because it it essential for them to convince 90% of the market to upgrade their GPUs. Those informed will know the architecture behind each model but for everyone else you stick 780 on it and they will think its the “latest”.

    25% sounds right with a 33% bigger die and considering they will have to lower clocks on this chip to stay within the TDP as you suspect and with the added overhead of the 512 bus impacting the memory controller. The extra VRAM will give it more performance at the higher resolutions no doubt and 3D vision+multi-monitor setups

  • Kcoolkent

    25% performance boost- seems ok. To be honest i expected gk110 to be around 30-40% faster than gtx 680. I am not sure about should i upgrade or not. I currently have gtx 570. 680 did not push too far away, so i was hoping that gk 110 will get the job done. I am kinda of a guy who needs more raw performance( new features such as txaa and dynamic vsync are welcomed; lol). It all comes to 1 thing: how much will 685 cost? If it will be 550$ and then it is gonna rock, if more-:(  Do you guys think i should wait till gtx 685, upgrade my PC with 2nd 570 or get 780 or 770 in 20…

    Thanks,
    SOL

  • Tackle70

    Everyone adopting the 680 or 7970 right now is gonna be royally screwed if this is indeed true (unless they priced it at like $700 or something, which I can’t imagine).

    I’m very curious to see if this proves true… doesn’t sound like AMD has anything that will compete with this… the 7990 doesn’t count since that will go against the dual GK104 (690) card.

  • http://videocardz.com VideoCardz

     That depends if you wish to wait few months for: a) GTX 685, b) GTX 680 price drop. If those rumors are true, then I would grab the cheapest GTX 680 and overclock it to its limits.

  • BestJinjo

    People who buy $500+ GPUs should expect them to be 2nd or 3rd best within 8-12 months. That’s the nature of the high-end market. HD7970 and GTX680 will still be good cards and certainly won’t be outdated. There have been numerous examples in the past though where the “refresh” chip is a lot faster than the usual 10-15%. X1800XT –> X1950XT and 7800GTX –> 7900GTX are just 2 examples. 

    I think AMD will focus on launching Sea Islands in Q1 2013 and trying to again beat GTX685 by 10% just to secure the $550 pricing. I think right now they are already ecstatic selling HD7870 for $350 and HD7970 for $530+. Last 3 generations their 4850 sold for $199, HD5850 for $259 and HD6950 for $299. Here they are selling HD7870 for $350…..

    Sure they’ll lose the performance crown temporarily to GTX685 until Sea Islands is out but that means 6 more months of milking the consumers selling $500 HD7970. That in itself is a *win* for them considering they were selling HD5870/6970 for $360-370.

  • BestJinjo

    You should upgrade if:

    1) The games you play no longer run to your satisfaction (FPS, min frames, image quality, etc.);
    2) If #1 does not apply and you just have $ to burn;
    3) If you need to keep up the e-peen on GPU forums.Otherwise, the general rule applies: The longer you wait, the more performance you’ll be able to buy at the same price level.

    Waiting forever also doesn’t make sense. That’s why I always refer to rule #1. Personally, since videocards are the most depreciating assets in a modern desktop, I always use rule #1. If I have extra $ to burn, I just invest it into stocks, bonds, etc. And when Rule #1 applies, that’s when I upgrade. I think GTX570 with a mild overclock is plenty fast for 1080P. If you are gaming at 1600P, I’d upgrade. Otherwise, there is no point, especially since all the best games in 2012 are NOT GPU intensive (Starcraft 2 expansion, Diablo 3, Max Payne 3, Mass Effect 3, Bioshock Infinite, etc.). 2012 is really not a year worth upgrading for since there is no game like BF3, or Crysis or Far Cry, etc. It’s actually the best year to wait imho since 28nm process is very expensive and well the summer is here to enjoy outdoor activities > games!

  • Jarf1n

    hello all

    no,this card not to be named gtx 780,coz maxwell is that brand.

    it will be,like many says gtx 685,or 680 TI,but likely gtx 685,bcoz its so much more faster than gtx 680.

    truth is that this card is planing to be gtx 680 and possible high end card against amd’s 7970,but nvidia see that amd’s high end card hd 7970 is so slow that model 670 ti can beat it,so,they named it gtx 680.

    gtx 695 coming out just bcoz its ready to plan and build and also final crush amd.

    gtx dual chip card, gtx 690 will be beat hd 7990 easily and also so much less power and heat.

    amd is dead and looser and its time to race fastest gpu is over ffor ever,,,specially,when maxwell coming next year.

    so,use,buyy and and play nvidia cards,if you want stay top for gaming and 3Damrk score table.

    - end -
     

  • BestJinjo

    My guess is Maxwell will be delayed until 2014 at the earliest. 

    1) Previous timetable misses.

    Nvidia has been 6 months late with Fermi and Kepler. Using that track record, I am going to say they’ll be also 6 months late with Kepler (so it’s reasonable to shift from 2nd half of 2013 to 1st half of 2014).2) Unexpectedly rising costs of node shrinks. 

    When NV originally laid out the roadmap for Fermi (2009), Kepler (2011) and Maxwell (2013), they likely didn’t foresee how much more expensive the transitions to lower nodes will be AND how much more difficult they will be due to capacity constraints at TSMC. By the looks of it, NV will take another quarter to roll-out the full GTX600 series desktop line-up.  Since current GPU generations tend to last 18-24 months (Fermi came out March 26, 2010), it would only be half way through a generation to release Maxwell next year. 

    3) Die size and TDP limitation of 28nm.

    GK110 is supposed to be an enormous 500mm^2 die (or so) on 28nm process. That will push 250W+ TDP.  Considering Kepler architecture is the most efficient per transistor, per die, per watt already, it seems doubtful that Maxwell can improve on that in just 12 months from today. My best guess is Maxwell will launch on 20nm, not on 28nm. This against points to 2014 at the earliest.

    4) Enormous costs to launch new architectures.

    1 year of Kepler is not long enough to recoup the enormous R&D costs of 3-4 years to get that architecture running. 

    5) Lack of strong competitive pressure.

    If GK110 is 25% faster than GTX680, it would already be fast enough to compete against Sea Islands. Right now HD7970 needs similar clocks and 2048 SPs to match a 1536 SP GTX680. Unless Sea Islands has massive GPU clock speed increase, very large rebalancing of the architecture/massive increases in performance/clock, then it will take a 3000 SP Sea Islands to go against a 2304 SP Kepler.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B7PAHCIZ5OTUFZVM7NX3SRWAIE Beave Village

    GTX 700 series won’t show up until late 2013 early 2014.  680, 685 will be king for some time.

  • Hgyjnilk

    There probably gonna release it as the 780

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  • Kstoll

    How could the performance of a card with 33% more CUDA cores and 50% higher memory bandwidth (and double the amount of memory, mind you that would only really be of benefit in very high resolution or very high anti0aliasing settings) and what I would imagine to be the same clock speeds only be 25% faster?  The 50% memory bandwidth alone could give atleast 13-18% boost in performance.  Then you add a third more CUDA cores… I would say closer to 40% more performance.  And it would also gain your better overclocking results.  The 7970 gains more performance then the GTX680 when you overclock it due to the 384-bit memory bus (300+GB/b memory bandwidth overclocked!).

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  • Lsucrazy

    I wonder if this new card being pushed out so fast has anything to do with the RSOD?

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  • GTXFAN

    After GTX 285 another monster?

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